My answer to the question that was asked—Are the narcissistic and structural disorders separate or are they mixed?—is that they are bothThere is no doubt in my mind that there are forms of personality development, character formations, psychological illnesses, a set of psychological phenomena that fall into place when one thinks in the terms I have tried to describe: a childhood of intense involvement, a childhood of perhaps overintense involvement, a childhood of such involvement, particularly in the narrow family situation, that culminates in the tragedies and successes of the Oedipus complex and leads to particular types of unsolvable conflicts, particularly structural conflicts, and these formed in such a way that part of the formation is unconscious and leads to defense mechanisms, symptoms—to the classical neuroses. However, there is another kind of childhood and another kind of basic trauma that one could not possibly understand in its essence by looking at it in the way I have just described. It is not the overstimulated child, it is not the overinvolved child, it is not the child whose psychological organization partially comes to grief by being overly involved in the passions of grownups. It is the child who lacks the responses of others, who is deprived of the interest of his surroundings. Again, I do not have to tell you that the complexities of evaluating that child's situation are just as great as the complexities of evaluating the situation that leads to the unsuccessful solution of the passions of early lifeBoth have to be handled in a sophisticated way. And one can't necessarily rely on a patient's historical report. What the patient immediately remembers may not convey the essential story. What the external observer sees may by no means tell the truth. (p. 123)